Friday, January 28, 2011

Re: [discussion_vu] Shadi (Nikkah)?????????????

Ma'am Saima apne liberal views apne pas rkhen,Quran pak mn to namaz ka
triqa bhi nae likha hua,ap namaz ko bhi jhutlao phr,ajib soch ha logon
ki,
Shia firqa to HAZUR S.A.W k zamane mn tha he nae,yeh to aik yahoodi ki
ikhtirah ha(Abdullah bin saba),aur agr shia ko kafir nae qarar dia gya
abi tak constitution of pakistan mn,to insha Allah wo waqt bhi door
nae.qadyani bhi pehle muslim the.
Han is bat se ittefaq krn ga k yeh forum is topic k lye thik nae..man
khud pehle apni ghlti ka ehtraf krta hn,but mjburan kehna pra.

On 1/28/11, mc080403189 Muhammad Ali <mc080403189@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
> main nahi janta lekin kafir k defination kya hai ye too app ko pata ho ga
> dosri baat haq or batil sath sath nahi chal sakatay ek baat ya to thek hai
> ya ghalat hai ye nahi hai k ghalat baat b thek hai or sahi baat b thek hai
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:56 AM, bc070400206 SAIMA MANZOOR <
> bc070400206@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>
>> agar shia ap kai is view kai hisab sai kafir hai to ussaye muslim kyoun
>> karar diya hai kiya quran pak main likha hai ye btayi ga zaroor muje
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:45 AM, mc080403189 Muhammad Ali <
>> mc080403189@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>
>>> sorry aghar kisi ko bura laga to ye mujay kahen se mili hai to mujay
>>> samaj
>>> nahi aaa rahi me ne send kar d
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:44 AM, mc080403189 Muhammad Ali <
>>> mc080403189@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> abb is pe b comment kar den ye firka hai ya mazhab
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:32 AM, bc070400206 SAIMA MANZOOR <
>>>> bc070400206@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> mr. main ap sai ye kehna chahoon gyi kai ap asa firke ko lai kar bat
>>>>> mat
>>>>> karein kyoun kai is group main kayi firko sai taluk rakhne wale student
>>>>> hain
>>>>> sunni hain ehle hadis hain shia han hm muslim akhir jab bh koi bat
>>>>> karte
>>>>> hain to firkon ko beech main lai ate hain hme sirf as a muslim ho kar
>>>>> sochna hain
>>>>> israyli sahi kehte hai muslim kiya apne islam ki hifazat karein ye to
>>>>> khud firkon main bate hue hain
>>>>> muslim sai ache to humm hai hum haram mazhab to kamzkam firkon main nhi
>>>>> bata
>>>>> ye hum muslm ki kamzoriya hain jo hm dusron frahim karte hai is liye aj
>>>>> haram islam pure duniya kai liye mazaq ban in euorpean logon kai liye
>>>>> kai
>>>>> hmare prophet ki shaan main ghustakhian ki ja rahi hain akhir in
>>>>> euorpean
>>>>> logon kai mazhab koi mazaq nhi karat hinduon ka koi nhi agar isal ka
>>>>> hi
>>>>> kyoun kai muslim khud hi ye moaka frahim karte jhai hm apni kamzoriya
>>>>> khud
>>>>> dusron dekhate hain aj hamri nasal internet pai mobile pai kiya hkarti
>>>>> waqat
>>>>> kiya ziay kissi kuch fikar nhi nuksan hm dusra ka nhi apna karte hain
>>>>> kyoun ?????????????????????????????
>>>>> hai jawab ap logon kai pass hm muslim itne kamor ho gye hmri genration
>>>>> itne isalm sai lataluq hai koi bhi uth kar hmre islam ki taraf ungli
>>>>> kar dai
>>>>>
>>>>> hm main kiya itni himmat nhi ka hm apne isalm ki hifazat kare dusri
>>>>> koeme bhi to apne
>>>>> mazahib ki hifzat kar rahi hain un kai mazahib ki taraf to koi ungal
>>>>> karta hamri tarf kyoun ?????????????????????????????
>>>>> hamare islam ko phelna chahiye tha ye kiya ho raha hai hamre islam sirf
>>>>> namm ka kyou reh gya hai
>>>>> kin sab baton kai zimadar hm khud hai hm khud kyoun kai hm muslims nai
>>>>> shaitan follow karna churu kar diya hai hm apne culture ko bhool kar
>>>>> dusron
>>>>> ka culture apna bana rehe hain kyoun kiya kabdi hindu aur dusir koamon
>>>>> nai
>>>>> isalam ko ya muslim kai culture apnya hai
>>>>> har koam apne culture ko progress karti hai hm muslim apn i nhi dusron
>>>>> kai culture ko apnate hain
>>>>> itne kamzoriyan hain hm main to kiya hm muslim hain hain
>>>>> kiya?????????????????????
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Cute 470
>>>>> <atifcute470@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> her koi apny apny comments dyyyyyyyyy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:17 AM, mc080400784 Sehrish Tufail <
>>>>>> mc080400784@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jzakallah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:30 AM, mc080401388 Muhammad Nadeem <
>>>>>>> mc080401388@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GUIDELINE:
>>>>>>>> *IS KO COMPLETE GHOR SA PERHO*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Suni larki ko shia larka k sath shadi nahien karni chahia.Quin k
>>>>>>>> Shia
>>>>>>>> hazrat nein
>>>>>>>> Kalima mein azafa kia ha,
>>>>>>>> Namazian 5 ki bejaay 3 perhtay hien,
>>>>>>>> Azan mein Azafa kia Ha'
>>>>>>>> Namaz e Janaza ko badal dia,
>>>>>>>> Jab Quran e Hakeem ki akhiree aayat nazil huiee to us mien
>>>>>>>> Allaha Pak na Farmia k {mafhoom} AAj k din Deen mukamil Ho gia ha.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To Phir baad mien koi or
>>>>>>>> Kalima,Namaz ,Azaan ,Namaz e Janaza ko change kernay walla kon hota
>>>>>>>> ha.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yaad Rakho k Hadees e Pak mien ha k aik zamana aisa aaya gaa k banda
>>>>>>>> subha ko musliman ho ga meger sham ko us ka eeman berbad ho chuka ho
>>>>>>>> ga or
>>>>>>>> sham ko musilman ho ga meger subha ko us ka eeman barbad ho chula ho
>>>>>>>> gaa.
>>>>>>>> AAj ka dor bhi fitnoon ka dor ha is mien apnay eeman ko bacha lo.
>>>>>>>> Ager aap naqeemati zaver pehinaa ho to kia aisay rastay per jaao gi
>>>>>>>> jis per
>>>>>>>> daako lutaray lutnay ka lia muntizar hoon.
>>>>>>>> Yaqeenun nehien jaa gee too emaan to zavir sa kahien
>>>>>>>> ...................... ziada qeemati ha.
>>>>>>>> Or Is Fitnoon K dor mien Firqa Wariat Ki behis mien na pero
>>>>>>>> quin k yea to Shataa Ka chungal ha jitnaa is mien utroo ga utna he
>>>>>>>> phunis
>>>>>>>> jaoo ga. yea jo mien na behes ki ha yea to faqat aap ka eeman
>>>>>>>> bachana ka lia
>>>>>>>> ki ha, otherwise kabhi na kartaa .Aap bas Ahl e sunit Maslak per
>>>>>>>> mazboty k
>>>>>>>> saath Quaim Rehoo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quin ka Suratul Fateha ki Aakhiree aayat mien Allaha pak na hamien
>>>>>>>> yea Dua sikhai ha k
>>>>>>>> "Hemien Un Logoon Ka Rastay per chalaa jin per teraa Inaam Huva or
>>>>>>>> Un
>>>>>>>> Logoon K Rastay per chalnay sa becha jin per teraa ghazab Huva"
>>>>>>>> Or Inaam yafta wo Log hien jin ko Zaban e Risalet sa Janat ki
>>>>>>>> bashartien Milien To Innam Yaftegan ki shanoon mien Gustakhian
>>>>>>>> kernay Walay
>>>>>>>> kia un logoon k Rastoon per nehien chal rehay jin per Allaha pak Ka
>>>>>>>> ghazab
>>>>>>>> Huva.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hazrat Abu Bakar Sadique Razi Allaha anho or Hazrat Umer Razi Allaha
>>>>>>>> anho or Hazrat Aysha Sadiqa razi Alla anha or Hazrat Abu Hurara Razi
>>>>>>>> Allaha
>>>>>>>> anho ki shan mein sakhat Gustakhian kartay hein Agar yaqeen na aaya
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> youtube per jaa kr shia Kafir likho or in k zakiron ki gustakhian
>>>>>>>> sun lo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jin ko maray Aqaa nein Jannat ki bashartien de hoin un Hastion ki
>>>>>>>> shan mei gustakhian kanay wala ,
>>>>>>>> Musliman kehlaanay ka haqdar nahie .Quin k Nabi e Kareem sal Allah
>>>>>>>> ho
>>>>>>>> aalihi wassalim k sath apni jaan maal waldain behin bhai olaad orher
>>>>>>>> cheez
>>>>>>>> say ziada muhabat karna emman ka liay lazm or shirt ha
>>>>>>>> Or
>>>>>>>> jis ka sath Muhabat ho us ki her cheez k sath Muhabat ki jaani
>>>>>>>> chahiay phi he Muhabat kamil Hoti Ha.Or Hadees e Pak mei ha k jo jis
>>>>>>>> k sath
>>>>>>>> Dunia mein Muhabat Karay gaa Quamat mein ussi K sath uthaia jaye
>>>>>>>> gaa.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OR ISTERHA KI BATOON MIEN NA AAO KA IS TERQEE YAFTAA DOR MIEN HAM KO
>>>>>>>> BROAD MINDED OR OPEN MINDED HONA CHAHIAY SARAY MUSLIMAN HE TO HIEN
>>>>>>>> YA SHATAA
>>>>>>>> KI CHAAL HA YA BILKUL AISAY HE HA KA JAISAY KOY AAPKO KEHAY KA
>>>>>>>> BAHADUR BANOO
>>>>>>>> OR DAAKOUN WALAY RASTAY PER ZAVIR PEHIN KER JAO.
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:34 PM, mc080402223 Safia Khatoon <
>>>>>>>> mc080402223@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dears;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is a problem, a sunni girl has a proposal from a shia boy?
>>>>>>>>> Actually We dont have an approach to ask some true scholar for the
>>>>>>>>> right and accurate answer. If anyone of you can help us, also
>>>>>>>>> mention
>>>>>>>>> the reference too for the acceptance of the right answer. Actually
>>>>>>>>> according to my knowledge shia recite kalma with some additions,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> there are also some differences in many things. so
>>>>>>>>> So plz guide.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Try to avoid the irrelevant talk. thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jazak Allah
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>> From: ShahLa <mc090200667@vu.edu.pk>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:15 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [vumasters.com] Shadi
>>>>>>>>> To: vumasters@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear ask to some Muslim scholar, as they can guide u better than
>>>>>>>>> we...hope u understand...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Innocent Angel
>>>>>>>>> <innocent.dilawaiz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Muslim boy to kisi b girl se shadi kar sakta ha.But a muslim girl
>>>>>>>>> didn't married with non muslim
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:23 AM, mc090410307 Muhammad Ibrahim <
>>>>>>>>> mc090410307@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Please contact with islamic scholar for this purpose. We have no
>>>>>>>>> >> knowledge to guide you.
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> On 1/25/11, mc080402223 Safia Khatoon <mc080402223@vu.edu.pk>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> > Kya Shia(Ahl-E-Tashie) aur Sunni(Ahl-E-Sunnat) ki shadi jaiz
>>>>>>>>> (acceptable)
>>>>>>>>> >> > hai?
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> > Do give reasons?
>>>>>>>>> >> >
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