Saturday, January 29, 2011

Re: [discussion_vu] Shadi

hahaha doubt humaray jism kay akk hazar tokray be ker do to be humain
yaqeen hay afsos is baat ka hay tum loog apnay app ko muslamn kehtay
ho
wasay tum kabilay reham ho

On 1/29/11, mc080403140 Tahira Sarwar <mc080403140@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
> ap phely tu tameez k sath baat kere mai iss terh baat nai ker ri kyun ap
> logo ki baaty mujko pain nai de ri kyun k mujko dil se yaqeen hai woh jhut
> hai per ap logo ko meri baaton pe kyun gusha aa raha hai is liye k ap log
> khud doubt mai per gy ho or reailty kerwi hoti hai insan ko gusa aa hi jata
> hai kyun mai theek keh ri ho na
>
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Usman Ali Shah
> <mc070401764@vu.edu.pk>wrote:
>
>> tum koun hote hay saboot lanay wale yazeed ke olado Imam hussain ko
>> sheed kertay ho phir nohay kertay ho aur matam .mutta kernay wala loog
>> tum loog ko licence milay howay hain mutta kay Aur shabiya rasool jase
>> azeem hastyon per babnayd ilzam lagtay ho tum loogon ga thekhana jahan
>> hay hazart Ali kay HAzart Abas Imam hussan o Hussan R.A nay kiya apni
>> oladon kay nam Abubakr ,Usman,farooq na rakhay on kay dil main bugyus
>> hota to wo in sahibya Rasool kay nam say apni oladon kay nam rkhtay
>> jitnay marase kunjay aur hira mandi main aurtayn hain sub ko mutta ka
>> licence mila howa hay lanat hay zanyon per
>> In kay alim jahal tareen aur badzuban membron per khray ho ker galyan
>> danay walay lanat hay in kay alimo per baatin bare kerte ho zara
>> tareekh paro apni tumhrae aqal thekhnay aay Allah kay walyoun per bath
>> ker ilzam tarashi ker rahe ho jin ke shan o ko insan kiya janwar tak
>> mantay hain ya Wohe Umer farooq hay jin ka akk letter drya djla main
>> dala jata hay to pani behnay lagta hay
>> batameez ho tum loog jahil ho aqalyin zail hay tum loogon ke sarkoun
>> per khoun bahan aur baysharmmon ke trha rona wawlay kerna bandon ke
>> trha sarkoun per niklna baray baray idols bhuut ke lay ker muhraam
>> main sarkon per ana Zuljana jo gora tha os ke shabi bana us kay pashab
>> ko peena aur nahan gobar ko tabaruk samjna ya hay tumhara deen lanat
>> hay tuj per larki zara apnay geraban main jankh
>>
>> On 1/29/11, mc080403140 Tahira Sarwar <mc080403140@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>> > versy ki baat mat kero ap logo ki virast tu bagney walo ki hai jo her
>> maqam
>> > pe ap k suhabha nabi serwer ko chor k bhag gey humare pass saboot hai
>> agar
>> > himat hai ap logo mai tu manazera kerwa lo ap k abao ijdada ne b aisa hi
>> > kiya tha or ap b ker k dekh lo phir dekhna kis ka yaqeen kis mazhub pe
>> pora
>> > hai or kon bhag ta hai bas or dosri baat
>> > gor se suna ye jo qoom shia hai na ap ko hadis mubarka k mutabik batao
>> > gi
>> ye
>> > khud k hazrat fatima salam ho un pe ki dua hai unho ne dua ki unko
>> > phely
>> hi
>> > mallom tha k kiya qurbani deni hai un k bete nai tu dua ki k aye mere
>> Allah
>> > mere hussain ka ghum tu hum nai ker paye ge per ap ek qoom aisi bana na
>> jo
>> > sub k samne meri olad ka matam ker sakhy ab himat hai tu rasool ki is
>> hadis
>> > ko b jhutla dena ap k abo ijdad jhutlaty aye hai means ap k suhabha
>> > karam
>> > ap ker lo gy tu kiya ho jaye ga
>> > phir b agar yaqeen nai aye ga k humra fiqha theek hai tu zara humare
>> jalooso
>> > ko tv pe dekha kero jis terf sachai hoti hai logo uss ko manty hai or
>> rash
>> > dekho agy nai hota tha per ab jaisy jaisy logo ko saor aa raha hai sub
>> log
>> > kerh re hai humare hai ya hussain
>> > per ap jaisy log nai manty kyun k jin k dil hi main bughz ho woh kiya
>> many
>> > ge Rasool akram k door mai b aisy log thy jo oper se kehty thy ya Rasoo
>> > allah hum ap k sath hai per der asal hoty nai thy aj kal aisa ho jaye ga
>> tu
>> > kiya hoga koi nai
>> > humare last imam ne ana hi hai tub dekha jaye ga k kon theek hai or kon
>> gult
>> > is ka faisla duniya mai hi ho ga or ek baat tub koi firkha nai hoga sirf
>> > imam ko man ny waly ho gy bas zara soucho k last imam b un ki hi hujat
>> hai
>> > jin ka matam ap log nai kerty tu kiya jawab dy ho ge imam k samney kiya
>> > mounh ly k jao gy ap log imam k samny ya uss rast ya uss galio se
>> > guzerna
>> > band ker do gy jis jis galiyon mai humare mola ka nishaan Allam laga ho
>> ga
>> > jao phely theek histroy ka mutalya kero phir behas kerna ap se zada ilm
>> hai
>> > mujko Quran ko terjamy or samjh k perty hai ap ki terh us mai apne pass
>> se
>> > addition nai kerty meand zuad lafz ko duad nai perty jo lafz hai usko us
>> > terh hi perty hai bas ap k liye itna hi kafi hai
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Usman Ali Shah
>> > <mc070401764@vu.edu.pk>wrote:
>> >
>> >> @ tahiraira sarawrzara adihr to dhekhain app nay itna sabit ker diya
>> >> shi mazahab hay islam nahi dosra app kay qool kay mutabik shia mazahab
>> >> yazeed kay baad bana means versy clear App S.A.W say nahi zara ghour
>> >> karo ya hay tumhare histry jo yaseed kay baad bante hay is liya tum
>> >> loog ashaba akram ke sare qurabanyion ko nazar andaz ker datay ho wel
>> >> ya wo loog thay jo yassed ke fooj main thay app loog un lke naslain ho
>> >> jo jin ko Baad main bohat afsos howa kay humaray haton kiya howa wo
>> >> roo apnay kuon bahay glyon main lakin abb un ke koe mafi na the bus
>> >> ajj tak yaseed kay sapahyion ke oladian nohay ker rahae hain
>> >>
>> >> On 1/29/11, mc080403484 Arshad Iqbal <mc080403484@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>> >> > *I think koi hum logo ko divide kar raha hy so please for GOD Sak bus
>> >> > kar
>> >> do
>> >> > ye sub hum pahly hi Punjabi, Sarhadi, Sendhi, Balochi, Syed, Rajpoot,
>> >> Awan,
>> >> > Malik, Sheikh, Ansari, aur pata nai kiya kiya hain?????????
>> >> >
>> >> > Hain tu aik ADAM A.S ki Olad tu phr ye sub qqqqqqq??????? is there
>> >> > any
>> >> > logic?
>> >> > may be there is some differences but KALMA tu unka b aur humara b aik
>> >> > hy.
>> >> > ALLAH ny Quran me bata diya hy jis ka Mafoom Hy:
>> >> >
>> >> Ye
>> >> > zaat paat aur cast etc sirf jaan pahchan k liye hy.
>> >> >
>> >> > so leave this topic and become a nation to save our Mother Land
>> PAKISTAN
>> >> >
>> >> > ALLAH BLESS US ALL.
>> >> > AMEEN
>> >> > *
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:08 PM, mc080403140 Tahira Sarwar <
>> >> > mc080403140@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> or ek aur baat k ap log kehty ho k kisii zakir se poucha k imam
>> hussain
>> >> AS
>> >> >> ko q kyun mara tu jo ap k baqol ap ne jawab likha howa hai
>> >> >> us ka jawab ye hai
>> >> >>
>> >> >> *Khety hai bere fikhar se hum ghum nai kerty
>> >> >> matam ki sada sunty hai per matam nai kerty
>> >> >> woh log bhala smajhy ge kiya ramzey shahadat
>> >> >> jo Eid tu kerty per Muhurrum nai kerty
>> >> >> kyun ap ka dil duhkta hai kyun jalta hai ye seena
>> >> >> hum ap k seene pe tu matam nai kerty
>> >> >> mohsin ye mhashor rawayat hai jahan mai
>> >> >> Qatal kabi Maqtool ka matam nai kkerty
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Apna koi Mer jaye tu roty hai lipat ker
>> >> >> per Aal-e - Muhammad ka tum ghum nai kerty
>> >> >> Himat hai tu keh dena mehsher main Nabi Sewer (pbuh) se
>> >> >> hum zinda- o- javed ka matam nai kerty
>> >> >>
>> >> >> kehty hai bare naz se
>> >> >> hum ghum nai kerty
>> >> >> matam ki sada sunty hai matam nai kerty
>> >> >> Aye matam shabir AS se mouh phirney walo
>> >> >> kiya apne azeezo ka bi kabi ghum nai kerty
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Agar hussain k matam mai kuch nai rukha
>> >> >> tu phir yazeed k beito mai khalbali kyun hai
>> >> >>
>> >> >> *
>> >> >> *On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:07 PM, mc080403140 Tahira Sarwar <
>> >> >> mc080403140@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>> >> >> *
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> *or ek aur baat k ap log kehty ho k kisii zakir se poucha k imam
>> >> hussain
>> >> >>> AS ko q kyun mara tu jo ap k baqol ap ne jawab likha howa hai
>> >> >>> us ka jawab ye hai
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Khety hai bere fikhar se hum ghum nai kerty
>> >> >>> matam ki sada sunty hai per matam nai kerty
>> >> >>> woh log bhala smajhy ge kiya ramzey shahadat
>> >> >>> jo Eid tu kerty per Muhurrum nai kerty
>> >> >>> kyun ap ka dil duhkta hai kyun jalta hai ye seena
>> >> >>> hum ap k seene pe tu matam nai kerty
>> >> >>> mohsin ye mhashor rawayat hai jahan mai
>> >> >>> Qatal kabi Maqtool ka matam nai kkerty
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Apna koi Mer jaye tu roty hai lipat ker
>> >> >>> per Aal-e - Muhammad ka tum ghum nai kerty
>> >> >>> Himat hai tu keh dena mehsher main Nabi Sewer (pbuh) se
>> >> >>> hum zinda- o- javed ka matam nai kerty
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> kehty hai bare naz se
>> >> >>> hum ghum nai kerty
>> >> >>> matam ki sada sunty hai matam nai kerty
>> >> >>> Aye matam shabir AS se mouh phirney walo
>> >> >>> kiya apne azeezo ka bi kabi ghum nai kerty
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Agar hussain k matam mai kuch nai rukha
>> >> >>> tu phir yazeed k beito mai khalbali kyun hai *
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 1:40 PM, mc080403140 Tahira Sarwar <
>> >> >>> mc080403140@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> ap logo k baqool k shia mazhub derasal yazeed ka mazab tha agar
>> >> >>>> yazeed
>> >> >>>> ka
>> >> >>>> mazhub tha tu shia qoom kabi b na banti apko itna confirm ker do k
>> >> >>>> uss
>> >> >>>> age
>> >> >>>> main shia mazhub ka koi concept hi nai tha knowldge ki baat kerty
>> ho
>> >> ap
>> >> >>>> ko
>> >> >>>> apne shuhab karam k bare mai hi nai maloom k k kon thy kiya kiya
>> >> >>>> kaam
>> >> >>>> kiye
>> >> >>>> beri himat ki baat ho ti hai haqeeqat ko face kerna
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> humare tu phely kahlifha b mula ali hai or akhri b humare phely
>> imam
>> >> >>>> b
>> >> >>>> mula ali hai or akhri imam mehdi A.S
>> >> >>>> bhut beri gumrahi mai ho ap log per jana sub ne allah k pass hi
>> hai
>> >> >>>> Quran majeed main khuly ilfazon mai hai k hum zameen mai kuch aisa
>> >> otra
>> >> >>>> hai k jin logo ne unko pechan liya unki aakehrat sudher gei jin
>> logo
>> >> ne
>> >> >>>> un k
>> >> >>>> juhtlaya un k injaam woh akhrat main khud dekh ley ge phir keh ge
>> >> >>>> k
>> >> kash
>> >> >>>> hum
>> >> >>>> un logo k pechy na lagty jin k khun karnamy theek nai hai
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ap sub logo k liye
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> *Ab muslmano ko izzat ka khyal aya hy
>> >> >>>> Apni khoi hoi gherat ka khyal aya hai
>> >> >>>> Dar ba Dar Aal - e - Muhammad ko phirany walo
>> >> >>>> Aj toheen Risalat ka khayalaya hai
>> >> >>>> *
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Usman Ali Shah
>> >> >>>> <mc070401764@vu.edu.pk>wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> agar app loog mare baat sunain to main kuch kahon jo saray maslay
>> ka
>> >> >>>>> conclusion ho lakin plz is ka reply zaror dain kuon kay is say
>> >> >>>>> kay
>> >> bat
>> >> >>>>> kise controversy ke gunjaish nahi
>> >> >>>>> first of All for example Hum dono main say akk to haq per hay
>> >> >>>>> lets
>> >> say
>> >> >>>>> agar shia haq per hayin nosbila its just an example to phir
>> sunniyon
>> >> >>>>> ke bakhishs toi h jay ke juon kay sahaba karam ke muhabaat say
>> >> >>>>> aur
>> >> >>>>> deen ke katabon ke waja say jo hum tak pohncha hum os ka ahtram
>> >> kertay
>> >> >>>>> hain HUmaray immamon nay onhon baray rutbay ata kiya jin main ko
>> >> >>>>> zara
>> >> >>>>> barbar be humaray nazdeeq shaq nahi lakin .hum loog muslam kay
>> baray
>> >> >>>>> main acha guman ker rahay hain phir wo muslamn jin ke gawahe Khud
>> >> >>>>> App
>> >> >>>>> S.A.W hain humare bakhish dono surton main paki kuon kkay buray
>> >> >>>>> ko
>> >> >>>>> bura kehna be islam main mana hay agar wo muslman hay
>> >> >>>>> Magar magar magar yahe question main shia hazrat say puchta hoon
>> >> >>>>> agar
>> >> >>>>> hum haq per howay to tumhara kiya banay ga kuon kay tum App S.A.W
>> >> >>>>> kay
>> >> >>>>> pyaray sahaba ikaram ko naosbullah kiya kiya nahi kehtay rahay
>> kiya
>> >> ya
>> >> >>>>> wo be sub shaq ke bunyad per tum apni kitabon per yaqeen ker kay
>> os
>> >> >>>>> ankon per to nahi
>> >> >>>>> Wel conclusion Sahaba Ikaram ke muhabaat kernay walay dono tarf
>> say
>> >> >>>>> kamyab
>> >> >>>>> Magar shi hazrat RISk per magar kuda ke qasam ya risk in ko bohat
>> >> >>>>> manhga per sakta hay mare shi hazrat say guzarish hay shaba ikran
>> >> >>>>> say
>> >> >>>>> bugas chor dain aur positive soch rakhan na kay negitive
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On 1/28/11, mc080400838 Muhammad Usman Amin <
>> mc080400838@vu.edu.pk>
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> > mohtarma tahira sahiba mujy sirf ye btyn QURAN-E-PAK ko iktha
>> krna
>> >> >>>>> mtlb ek
>> >> >>>>> > kitab ki shkl ma krna bura kam ha, zakaat na deny or NUBAWWAT k
>> >> jhuty
>> >> >>>>> daway
>> >> >>>>> > krny walo ko safaya krna bura kam ha, neel (river) ma khat
>> phenkwa
>> >> kr
>> >> >>>>> insan
>> >> >>>>> > ki qurbani rukwana bura kam ha to phir acha kam kya ha????????
>> huh
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > or dusri bat ye ha HAZUR S.A.W ne 10 sahaba ko unki zindgi ma e
>> >> >>>>> > jannat
>> >> >>>>> ki
>> >> >>>>> > bashart dy di thi jinhen hum ASHRA-E-MUBASHRA kehty hen
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> >
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>> >> >>>>> > 2. Hazrat Umer
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>> >> >>>>> > 4. Hazrat Ali ibn Abu Talib
>> >> >>>>> > 5. Hazrat Talha
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>> >> >>>>> > 7. Hazrat Saad bin Abi Waqas
>> >> >>>>> > 8. Hazrat Saeed bin Zaid
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