Saturday, January 29, 2011

Re: [discussion_vu] Shadi

ap phely tu tameez k sath baat kere mai iss terh baat nai ker ri kyun ap logo ki baaty mujko pain nai de ri kyun k mujko dil se yaqeen hai woh jhut hai per ap logo ko meri baaton pe kyun gusha aa raha hai is liye k ap log khud doubt mai per gy ho or reailty kerwi hoti hai insan ko gusa aa hi jata hai kyun mai theek keh ri ho na

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Usman Ali Shah <mc070401764@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
tum koun hote hay saboot lanay wale yazeed ke olado Imam hussain ko
sheed kertay ho phir nohay kertay ho aur matam .mutta kernay wala loog
tum loog ko licence milay howay hain mutta kay Aur shabiya rasool jase
azeem hastyon per babnayd ilzam lagtay ho tum loogon ga thekhana jahan
hay hazart Ali kay HAzart Abas Imam hussan o Hussan R.A nay kiya apni
oladon kay nam Abubakr ,Usman,farooq na rakhay on kay dil main bugyus
hota to wo in sahibya Rasool kay nam say apni oladon kay nam rkhtay
jitnay marase kunjay aur hira mandi main aurtayn hain sub ko mutta ka
licence mila howa hay lanat hay zanyon per
In kay alim jahal tareen aur badzuban membron per khray ho ker galyan
danay walay lanat hay in kay alimo per baatin bare kerte ho zara
tareekh paro apni tumhrae aqal thekhnay aay Allah kay walyoun per bath
ker ilzam tarashi ker rahe ho jin ke shan o ko insan kiya janwar tak
mantay hain ya Wohe Umer farooq hay jin ka akk letter drya djla main
dala jata hay to pani behnay lagta hay
batameez ho tum loog jahil ho aqalyin zail hay tum loogon ke sarkoun
per khoun bahan aur baysharmmon ke trha rona wawlay kerna bandon ke
trha sarkoun per niklna baray baray idols bhuut ke lay ker muhraam
main sarkon per ana Zuljana jo gora tha os ke shabi bana us kay pashab
ko peena aur nahan gobar ko tabaruk samjna ya hay tumhara deen lanat
hay tuj per larki zara apnay geraban main jankh

On 1/29/11, mc080403140 Tahira Sarwar <mc080403140@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
> versy ki baat mat kero ap logo ki virast tu bagney walo ki hai jo her maqam
> pe ap k suhabha nabi serwer ko chor k bhag gey humare pass saboot hai agar
> himat hai ap logo mai tu manazera kerwa lo ap k abao ijdada ne b aisa hi
> kiya tha or ap b ker k dekh lo phir dekhna kis ka yaqeen kis mazhub pe pora
> hai or kon bhag ta hai bas or dosri baat
> gor se suna ye jo qoom shia hai na ap ko hadis mubarka k mutabik batao gi ye
> khud k hazrat fatima salam ho un pe ki dua hai  unho ne dua ki unko phely hi
> mallom tha k kiya qurbani deni hai un k bete nai tu dua ki k aye mere Allah
> mere hussain ka ghum tu hum nai ker paye ge per ap ek qoom aisi bana na jo
> sub k samne meri olad ka matam ker sakhy ab himat hai tu rasool ki is hadis
> ko b jhutla dena ap k abo ijdad jhutlaty aye hai means ap k suhabha karam
> ap ker lo gy tu kiya ho jaye ga
> phir b agar yaqeen nai aye ga k humra fiqha theek hai tu zara humare jalooso
> ko tv pe dekha kero jis terf sachai hoti hai logo uss ko manty hai or rash
> dekho agy nai hota tha per ab jaisy jaisy logo ko saor aa raha hai sub log
> kerh re hai humare hai ya hussain
> per ap jaisy log nai manty kyun k jin k dil hi main bughz ho woh kiya many
> ge Rasool akram k door mai b aisy log thy jo oper se kehty thy ya Rasoo
> allah hum ap k sath hai per der asal hoty nai thy aj kal aisa ho jaye ga tu
> kiya hoga koi nai
> humare last imam ne ana hi hai tub dekha jaye ga k kon theek hai or kon gult
> is ka faisla duniya mai hi ho ga or ek baat tub koi firkha nai hoga sirf
> imam ko man ny waly ho gy bas zara soucho k last imam b un ki hi hujat hai
> jin ka matam ap log nai kerty tu kiya jawab dy ho ge imam k samney kiya
> mounh ly k jao gy ap log imam k samny ya uss rast ya uss galio se guzerna
> band ker do gy jis jis galiyon  mai humare mola ka nishaan Allam laga ho ga
> jao phely theek histroy ka mutalya kero phir behas kerna ap se zada ilm hai
> mujko Quran ko terjamy or samjh k perty hai ap ki terh us mai apne pass se
> addition nai kerty meand zuad lafz ko duad nai perty jo lafz hai usko us
> terh hi perty hai bas ap k liye itna hi kafi hai
>
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Usman Ali Shah
> <mc070401764@vu.edu.pk>wrote:
>
>> @ tahiraira sarawrzara adihr to dhekhain app nay itna sabit ker diya
>> shi mazahab hay islam nahi dosra app kay qool kay mutabik shia mazahab
>> yazeed kay baad bana means versy clear App S.A.W say nahi zara ghour
>> karo ya hay tumhare histry jo yaseed kay baad bante hay is liya tum
>> loog ashaba akram ke sare qurabanyion ko nazar andaz ker datay ho wel
>> ya wo loog thay jo yassed ke fooj main thay app loog un lke naslain ho
>> jo jin ko Baad main bohat afsos howa kay humaray haton kiya howa wo
>> roo apnay kuon bahay glyon main lakin abb un ke koe mafi na the bus
>> ajj tak yaseed kay sapahyion ke oladian nohay ker rahae hain
>>
>> On 1/29/11, mc080403484 Arshad Iqbal <mc080403484@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>> > *I think koi hum logo ko divide kar raha hy so please for GOD Sak bus
>> > kar
>> do
>> > ye sub hum pahly hi Punjabi, Sarhadi, Sendhi, Balochi, Syed, Rajpoot,
>> Awan,
>> > Malik, Sheikh, Ansari, aur pata nai kiya kiya hain?????????
>> >
>> > Hain tu aik ADAM A.S ki Olad tu phr ye sub qqqqqqq??????? is there any
>> > logic?
>> > may be there is some differences but KALMA tu unka b aur humara b aik
>> > hy.
>> > ALLAH ny Quran me bata diya hy jis ka Mafoom Hy:
>> >
>> Ye
>> > zaat paat aur cast etc sirf jaan pahchan k liye hy.
>> >
>> > so leave this topic and become a nation to save our Mother Land PAKISTAN
>> >
>> > ALLAH BLESS US ALL.
>> > AMEEN
>> > *
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:08 PM, mc080403140 Tahira Sarwar <
>> > mc080403140@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> or ek aur baat k ap log kehty ho k kisii zakir se poucha k imam hussain
>> AS
>> >> ko q kyun mara tu jo ap k baqol ap ne jawab likha howa hai
>> >> us ka jawab ye hai
>> >>
>> >> *Khety hai bere fikhar se hum ghum nai kerty
>> >> matam ki sada sunty hai per matam nai kerty
>> >> woh log bhala smajhy ge kiya ramzey shahadat
>> >> jo Eid tu kerty per Muhurrum nai kerty
>> >> kyun ap ka dil duhkta hai kyun jalta hai ye seena
>> >> hum ap k seene pe tu matam nai kerty
>> >> mohsin ye mhashor rawayat hai jahan mai
>> >> Qatal kabi Maqtool ka matam nai kkerty
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Apna koi Mer jaye tu roty hai lipat ker
>> >> per Aal-e - Muhammad  ka tum ghum nai kerty
>> >> Himat hai tu keh dena mehsher main Nabi Sewer (pbuh) se
>> >> hum zinda- o- javed ka matam nai kerty
>> >>
>> >> kehty hai bare naz se
>> >> hum ghum nai kerty
>> >> matam ki sada sunty hai matam nai kerty
>> >> Aye matam shabir AS se mouh phirney walo
>> >> kiya apne azeezo ka bi kabi ghum nai kerty
>> >>
>> >> Agar  hussain k matam mai  kuch nai rukha
>> >> tu phir yazeed k beito mai khalbali kyun hai
>> >>
>> >> *
>> >> *On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:07 PM, mc080403140 Tahira Sarwar <
>> >> mc080403140@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>> >> *
>> >>>
>> >>> *or ek aur baat k ap log kehty ho k kisii zakir se poucha k imam
>> hussain
>> >>> AS ko q kyun mara tu jo ap k baqol ap ne jawab likha howa hai
>> >>> us ka jawab ye hai
>> >>>
>> >>> Khety hai bere fikhar se hum ghum nai kerty
>> >>> matam ki sada sunty hai per matam nai kerty
>> >>> woh log bhala smajhy ge kiya ramzey shahadat
>> >>> jo Eid tu kerty per Muhurrum nai kerty
>> >>> kyun ap ka dil duhkta hai kyun jalta hai ye seena
>> >>> hum ap k seene pe tu matam nai kerty
>> >>> mohsin ye mhashor rawayat hai jahan mai
>> >>> Qatal kabi Maqtool ka matam nai kkerty
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Apna koi Mer jaye tu roty hai lipat ker
>> >>> per Aal-e - Muhammad  ka tum ghum nai kerty
>> >>> Himat hai tu keh dena mehsher main Nabi Sewer (pbuh) se
>> >>> hum zinda- o- javed ka matam nai kerty
>> >>>
>> >>> kehty hai bare naz se
>> >>> hum ghum nai kerty
>> >>> matam ki sada sunty hai matam nai kerty
>> >>> Aye matam shabir AS se mouh phirney walo
>> >>> kiya apne azeezo ka bi kabi ghum nai kerty
>> >>>
>> >>> Agar  hussain k matam mai  kuch nai rukha
>> >>> tu phir yazeed k beito mai khalbali kyun hai *
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 1:40 PM, mc080403140 Tahira Sarwar <
>> >>> mc080403140@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> ap logo k baqool k shia mazhub derasal yazeed ka mazab tha agar
>> >>>> yazeed
>> >>>> ka
>> >>>> mazhub tha tu shia qoom kabi b na banti apko itna confirm ker do k
>> >>>> uss
>> >>>> age
>> >>>> main shia mazhub ka koi concept hi nai tha knowldge ki baat kerty ho
>> ap
>> >>>> ko
>> >>>> apne shuhab  karam k bare mai hi nai maloom k k kon thy kiya kiya
>> >>>> kaam
>> >>>> kiye
>> >>>> beri himat ki baat ho ti hai haqeeqat ko face kerna
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> humare tu phely kahlifha b mula ali hai or akhri b humare phely imam
>> >>>> b
>> >>>> mula ali hai or akhri imam mehdi A.S
>> >>>> bhut beri gumrahi mai ho ap log per jana sub ne allah k pass hi  hai
>> >>>> Quran majeed main khuly ilfazon mai hai k hum zameen mai kuch aisa
>> otra
>> >>>> hai k jin logo ne unko pechan liya unki aakehrat sudher gei jin logo
>> ne
>> >>>> un k
>> >>>> juhtlaya un k injaam woh akhrat main khud dekh ley ge phir keh ge k
>> kash
>> >>>> hum
>> >>>> un logo k pechy na lagty jin k khun karnamy theek nai hai
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ap sub logo k liye
>> >>>>
>> >>>> *Ab muslmano ko izzat ka khyal aya hy
>> >>>> Apni khoi hoi gherat ka khyal aya hai
>> >>>> Dar ba Dar Aal - e - Muhammad ko phirany walo
>> >>>> Aj toheen Risalat ka khayalaya hai
>> >>>> *
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Usman Ali Shah
>> >>>> <mc070401764@vu.edu.pk>wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> agar app loog mare baat sunain to main kuch kahon jo saray maslay ka
>> >>>>> conclusion ho lakin plz is ka reply zaror dain kuon kay is say kay
>> bat
>> >>>>> kise controversy ke gunjaish nahi
>> >>>>> first of All for example Hum dono main say akk to haq per hay lets
>> say
>> >>>>> agar shia haq per hayin nosbila its just an example to phir sunniyon
>> >>>>> ke bakhishs toi h jay ke juon kay sahaba karam ke muhabaat say aur
>> >>>>> deen ke katabon ke waja say jo hum tak pohncha hum os ka ahtram
>> kertay
>> >>>>> hain HUmaray immamon nay onhon baray rutbay ata kiya jin main ko
>> >>>>> zara
>> >>>>> barbar be humaray nazdeeq shaq nahi lakin .hum loog muslam kay baray
>> >>>>> main acha guman ker rahay hain phir wo muslamn jin ke gawahe Khud
>> >>>>> App
>> >>>>> S.A.W hain humare bakhish dono surton main paki kuon kkay buray ko
>> >>>>> bura kehna be islam main mana hay agar wo muslman hay
>> >>>>> Magar magar magar yahe question main shia hazrat say puchta hoon
>> >>>>> agar
>> >>>>> hum haq per howay to tumhara kiya banay ga kuon kay tum App S.A.W
>> >>>>> kay
>> >>>>> pyaray sahaba ikaram ko naosbullah kiya kiya nahi kehtay rahay kiya
>> ya
>> >>>>> wo be sub shaq ke bunyad per tum apni kitabon per yaqeen ker kay os
>> >>>>> ankon per to nahi
>> >>>>>  Wel conclusion Sahaba Ikaram ke muhabaat kernay walay dono tarf say
>> >>>>> kamyab
>> >>>>> Magar shi hazrat RISk per magar kuda ke qasam ya risk in ko bohat
>> >>>>> manhga per sakta hay mare shi hazrat say guzarish hay shaba ikran
>> >>>>> say
>> >>>>> bugas chor dain aur positive soch rakhan na kay negitive
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 1/28/11, mc080400838 Muhammad Usman Amin <mc080400838@vu.edu.pk>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> > mohtarma tahira sahiba mujy sirf ye btyn QURAN-E-PAK ko iktha krna
>> >>>>> mtlb ek
>> >>>>> > kitab ki shkl ma krna bura kam ha, zakaat na deny or NUBAWWAT k
>> jhuty
>> >>>>> daway
>> >>>>> > krny walo ko safaya krna bura kam ha, neel (river) ma khat phenkwa
>> kr
>> >>>>> insan
>> >>>>> > ki qurbani rukwana bura kam ha to phir acha kam kya ha???????? huh
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > or dusri bat ye ha HAZUR S.A.W ne 10 sahaba ko unki zindgi ma e
>> >>>>> > jannat
>> >>>>> ki
>> >>>>> > bashart dy di thi jinhen hum ASHRA-E-MUBASHRA kehty hen
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
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>> >>>>> >    2. Hazrat Umer
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>> >>>>> >    5. Hazrat Talha
>> >>>>> >    6. Hazrat Zubair bin al-Awwam
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