Thursday, February 10, 2011

Re: [discussion_vu] Shadi

Usman, I am Irfan Hashim, Not Irfan Hashif... :) well thank you

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Usman Ali Shah <mc070401764@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
irfan hashif u have done it great job keep it up!

On 2/9/11, bc070401536 IRFAN HASHIM <bc070401536@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
> Mr. Arshad you are looking like a kid... Don't argue in this matter as you
> have lack of knowledge...
>
> Please don't mind han...
>
> You wrote....
>
> *Hain tu aik ADAM A.S ki Olad tu phr ye sub qqqqqqq??????? *
>
> For your kind information there will be more or less 72 communities in this
> world as Hazrat Mohammed (P.B.U.H) directed us. and this information was
> discussed in this email before.
>
>
>
> *Miss Tahira Sarwar... *
>
> I know you are Shia... Aur Shia Kafir hay... Agar tumhara KALMA sahi hay to
> Makkah aur Madina walon ko samjhao... Mufti e Azam Abdul Rehman as Sudais ko
> samjhao... Ghalat Qarar do un logon ko... Agar tum log theek ho to Makkah
> aur Madina main apni Namaz kiu nahi parhtay???? do you know k tum logon pay
> Ban laga hoa hay, to enter Makkah? tum log muslim ban kar jatay ho chup chup
> kay... Aur batain yahan kartay ho bari bari... Jao wahan entry do apni aur
> apna Kalma nafiz karo muslim e ummah par...
>
> Tumhari kiya tumharay baray baray Aalim hazrat ki bhi jurrat nahi k aisa
> karain...
>
> Nabi Kareem (P.B.U.H) kay baad hamary pehlay khalifa aur Imam Hazrat Abu
> Bakar Siddique (Razi Allah Ta'la Anho) Hain... Tum log unko nahi maantay...
> Aur Hadith say sabit hota hay kay unki hasti woh hasti thi kay Allah nay
> Unko Salam Bheja tha... (Subhan Allah)....
>
> Us kay Baad Hazrat Umar (Razi Allah Ta'la Anho) Doosray Imam Banay..
>
> Phir Hazrat Usman (Razi Allah Ta'la Anho) third Khalifa banay
>
> aur phir Hazrat Ali (Razi Allah Ta'la Anho) fourth Khalifa Banay..
>
> Aur aik baat zara ghaur say sun lain aap.
>
> Hazrat Ali (Razi Allah Ta'la Anho) koi Nabi nahi hain... Woh aik Insan aur
> Huzoor Pak (P.B.U.H) kay saathi yani Sahaba hain... to unka naam jab bhi
> lain to us kay saath (Razi Allah Ta'la Anho) lagain... A.S nahi.... A.S sirf
> Paighambar k saath lag sakta hay...
>
>
>
> Aur ye sher o shairi say kuch nahi hota... Haqiqat ko tasleem karain ap.
>
>
>
> Aur Han...
>
> Shia mazhab yazeed ka mazhab nahi...
>
> Yazeed ibn Ziyad ko janti bhi hain k woh kon thay?
>
> Pehlay maloom karain k yazeed kon tha... Agar pata nahi chalay then ask me I
> will tell you...
>
>
>
> Ye Shia Koofi k wohi munafqeen ki auladon main say hain jinho nay Hazrat
> Imam Hussain (Razi Allah Ta'la Anho) ko dhokay say bula kar Shaheed kiya...
>
>
>
> *Mr. Usman Ali*
>
> You have sent us nice and informative email... Well I want to add one thing
> that the Shia community will never understand and will never accept that
> they are wrong...
>
> They are actor you know?
>
> Jab Hazrat Imam Hussain (Razi Allah Ta'la Anho) ko Shaheed kar diya gaya to
> unki Bibiyan aur betiyan ro rahi thiin aur seena kobi kar rahi thin.. to ye
> munafiqeen ki aurtain bhi un kay saath mil kar jhooti acting karnay lagin..
> aur Usi waqt Hazrat Bibi Zainab (Razi Allah Ta'la Anha) nay aik Dua ki jo
> foran qabool hoi… K Jis nay Meray Masoom Hussain (Razi Allah Ta'la Anho) ko
> shaheed kiya, wo Qayamat tak Azaab main mubtila rahay ga aur isi tarah apnay
> aap ko peet'ta rahay ga… Kiu k wo janti thin k kis nay mara hay Hazrat Imam
> Hussain (Razi Allah Ta'la Anho) ko… aur wo in actors ko bhi janti thiin.
>
> Aaj kon azaab may mubtila hay ye sari dunya jaanti hay..
>
> Ye Kafir aur Munafiq un hi ki auladon main say hain..
>
> Aur ye tab tak theek nahi ho saktay ….
>
> Until Hazrat Mehdi (A.S) comes. Once Hazrat Mehdi (A.S) comes there will be
> no Shia in this world as Hazrat Mehdi (A.S) will come as a Ummati of Hazrat
> Mohammed (P.B.U.H) and follow the religion ISLAM as our Prophet Mohammed
> (P.B.U.H) directed.
>
>
>
> I hope kisi muslim ko meri batain buri nahi lagi hongi..
>
>
>
> *Mr. Waqar Hassan Khan*
> Aap Namaz parhtay hain to ye aapki achi adat hay.. Iska matlab ye nahi k ap
> sab say poochain k kis kis nay namaz parhi aur kis nay nahi parhi.. Namaz
> Allah kay liye hay aur iska sawal bhi Allah hi karay ga... you are not
> allowed to ask this.  Haan apka kaam dawat ka hay so keep inviting people to
> offer prayer... hope you understand my point.
>
> Aap nay poocha tha k konsa KALMA hay jo non muslim ko muslim karnay k liye
> parhatay hain..
>
> To convert a non muslim into Muslim.. KALMA Tayyaba is enough...
>
> but there are seven things which are essential for a Muslim to believe in.
> These are spelled out in detail in the formal declaration of Islamic faith
> known as Iman Mufassal. Muslims pledge:
>
> 1.  Faith in ALLAH;
>
> 2.  Faith in HIS angels;
>
> 3.  Faith in all of HIS messengers or Prophets;
>
> 4.  Faith in HIS revealed Books;
>
> 5.  Faith in the Last Day or the Day of Judgement;
>
> 6.  Faith in the doctrine of predestination, which lays down that everything
> good or bad is decided by ALLAH), (*Taqdir*) and
>
> 7.  Faith in the life after death.
> This is called "Imaan e Mufassal"...
>
> Hope you will find your answer in this information.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:32 PM, mc080403484 Arshad Iqbal <
> mc080403484@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:04 PM, mc080403484 Arshad Iqbal <
>> mc080403484@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>
>>> *I think koi hum logo ko divide kar raha hy so please for GOD Sak bus kar
>>> do ye sub hum pahly hi Punjabi, Sarhadi, Sendhi, Balochi, Syed, Rajpoot,
>>> Awan, Malik, Sheikh, Ansari, aur pata nai kiya kiya hain?????????
>>>
>>> Hain tu aik ADAM A.S ki Olad tu phr ye sub qqqqqqq??????? is there any
>>> logic?
>>> may be there is some differences but KALMA tu unka b aur humara b aik hy.
>>> ALLAH ny Quran me bata diya hy jis ka Mafoom Hy:
>>>
>>> Ye zaat paat aur cast etc sirf jaan pahchan k liye hy.
>>>
>>> so leave this topic and become a nation to save our Mother Land PAKISTAN
>>>
>>> ALLAH BLESS US ALL.
>>> AMEEN
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:08 PM, mc080403140 Tahira Sarwar <
>>> mc080403140@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> or ek aur baat k ap log kehty ho k kisii zakir se poucha k imam hussain
>>>> AS ko q kyun mara tu jo ap k baqol ap ne jawab likha howa hai
>>>> us ka jawab ye hai
>>>>
>>>> *Khety hai bere fikhar se hum ghum nai kerty
>>>> matam ki sada sunty hai per matam nai kerty
>>>> woh log bhala smajhy ge kiya ramzey shahadat
>>>> jo Eid tu kerty per Muhurrum nai kerty
>>>> kyun ap ka dil duhkta hai kyun jalta hai ye seena
>>>> hum ap k seene pe tu matam nai kerty
>>>> mohsin ye mhashor rawayat hai jahan mai
>>>> Qatal kabi Maqtool ka matam nai kkerty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Apna koi Mer jaye tu roty hai lipat ker
>>>> per Aal-e - Muhammad  ka tum ghum nai kerty
>>>> Himat hai tu keh dena mehsher main Nabi Sewer (pbuh) se
>>>> hum zinda- o- javed ka matam nai kerty
>>>>
>>>> kehty hai bare naz se
>>>> hum ghum nai kerty
>>>> matam ki sada sunty hai matam nai kerty
>>>> Aye matam shabir AS se mouh phirney walo
>>>> kiya apne azeezo ka bi kabi ghum nai kerty
>>>>
>>>> Agar  hussain k matam mai  kuch nai rukha
>>>> tu phir yazeed k beito mai khalbali kyun hai
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>   *On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:07 PM, mc080403140 Tahira Sarwar <
>>>> mc080403140@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> *or ek aur baat k ap log kehty ho k kisii zakir se poucha k imam
>>>>> hussain AS ko q kyun mara tu jo ap k baqol ap ne jawab likha howa hai
>>>>> us ka jawab ye hai
>>>>>
>>>>> Khety hai bere fikhar se hum ghum nai kerty
>>>>> matam ki sada sunty hai per matam nai kerty
>>>>> woh log bhala smajhy ge kiya ramzey shahadat
>>>>> jo Eid tu kerty per Muhurrum nai kerty
>>>>> kyun ap ka dil duhkta hai kyun jalta hai ye seena
>>>>> hum ap k seene pe tu matam nai kerty
>>>>> mohsin ye mhashor rawayat hai jahan mai
>>>>> Qatal kabi Maqtool ka matam nai kkerty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Apna koi Mer jaye tu roty hai lipat ker
>>>>> per Aal-e - Muhammad  ka tum ghum nai kerty
>>>>> Himat hai tu keh dena mehsher main Nabi Sewer (pbuh) se
>>>>> hum zinda- o- javed ka matam nai kerty
>>>>>
>>>>> kehty hai bare naz se
>>>>> hum ghum nai kerty
>>>>> matam ki sada sunty hai matam nai kerty
>>>>> Aye matam shabir AS se mouh phirney walo
>>>>> kiya apne azeezo ka bi kabi ghum nai kerty
>>>>>
>>>>> Agar  hussain k matam mai  kuch nai rukha
>>>>> tu phir yazeed k beito mai khalbali kyun hai *
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 1:40 PM, mc080403140 Tahira Sarwar <
>>>>> mc080403140@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ap logo k baqool k shia mazhub derasal yazeed ka mazab tha agar yazeed
>>>>>> ka mazhub tha tu shia qoom kabi b na banti apko itna confirm ker do k
>>>>>> uss
>>>>>> age main shia mazhub ka koi concept hi nai tha knowldge ki baat kerty
>>>>>> ho ap
>>>>>> ko apne shuhab  karam k bare mai hi nai maloom k k kon thy kiya kiya
>>>>>> kaam
>>>>>> kiye beri himat ki baat ho ti hai haqeeqat ko face kerna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> humare tu phely kahlifha b mula ali hai or akhri b humare phely imam b
>>>>>> mula ali hai or akhri imam mehdi A.S
>>>>>> bhut beri gumrahi mai ho ap log per jana sub ne allah k pass hi  hai
>>>>>> Quran majeed main khuly ilfazon mai hai k hum zameen mai kuch aisa
>>>>>> otra
>>>>>> hai k jin logo ne unko pechan liya unki aakehrat sudher gei jin logo
>>>>>> ne un k
>>>>>> juhtlaya un k injaam woh akhrat main khud dekh ley ge phir keh ge k
>>>>>> kash hum
>>>>>> un logo k pechy na lagty jin k khun karnamy theek nai hai
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ap sub logo k liye
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Ab muslmano ko izzat ka khyal aya hy
>>>>>> Apni khoi hoi gherat ka khyal aya hai
>>>>>> Dar ba Dar Aal - e - Muhammad ko phirany walo
>>>>>> Aj toheen Risalat ka khayalaya hai
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Usman Ali Shah <
>>>>>> mc070401764@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> agar app loog mare baat sunain to main kuch kahon jo saray maslay ka
>>>>>>> conclusion ho lakin plz is ka reply zaror dain kuon kay is say kay
>>>>>>> bat
>>>>>>> kise controversy ke gunjaish nahi
>>>>>>> first of All for example Hum dono main say akk to haq per hay lets
>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>> agar shia haq per hayin nosbila its just an example to phir sunniyon
>>>>>>> ke bakhishs toi h jay ke juon kay sahaba karam ke muhabaat say aur
>>>>>>> deen ke katabon ke waja say jo hum tak pohncha hum os ka ahtram
>>>>>>> kertay
>>>>>>> hain HUmaray immamon nay onhon baray rutbay ata kiya jin main ko zara
>>>>>>> barbar be humaray nazdeeq shaq nahi lakin .hum loog muslam kay baray
>>>>>>> main acha guman ker rahay hain phir wo muslamn jin ke gawahe Khud App
>>>>>>> S.A.W hain humare bakhish dono surton main paki kuon kkay buray ko
>>>>>>> bura kehna be islam main mana hay agar wo muslman hay
>>>>>>> Magar magar magar yahe question main shia hazrat say puchta hoon agar
>>>>>>> hum haq per howay to tumhara kiya banay ga kuon kay tum App S.A.W kay
>>>>>>> pyaray sahaba ikaram ko naosbullah kiya kiya nahi kehtay rahay kiya
>>>>>>> ya
>>>>>>> wo be sub shaq ke bunyad per tum apni kitabon per yaqeen ker kay os
>>>>>>> ankon per to nahi
>>>>>>>  Wel conclusion Sahaba Ikaram ke muhabaat kernay walay dono tarf say
>>>>>>> kamyab
>>>>>>> Magar shi hazrat RISk per magar kuda ke qasam ya risk in ko bohat
>>>>>>> manhga per sakta hay mare shi hazrat say guzarish hay shaba ikran say
>>>>>>> bugas chor dain aur positive soch rakhan na kay negitive
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/28/11, mc080400838 Muhammad Usman Amin <mc080400838@vu.edu.pk>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > mohtarma tahira sahiba mujy sirf ye btyn QURAN-E-PAK ko iktha krna
>>>>>>> mtlb ek
>>>>>>> > kitab ki shkl ma krna bura kam ha, zakaat na deny or NUBAWWAT k
>>>>>>> jhuty daway
>>>>>>> > krny walo ko safaya krna bura kam ha, neel (river) ma khat phenkwa
>>>>>>> kr insan
>>>>>>> > ki qurbani rukwana bura kam ha to phir acha kam kya ha???????? huh
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > or dusri bat ye ha HAZUR S.A.W ne 10 sahaba ko unki zindgi ma e
>>>>>>> jannat ki
>>>>>>> > bashart dy di thi jinhen hum ASHRA-E-MUBASHRA kehty hen
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    1. Hazrat Abu Bakr
>>>>>>> >    2. Hazrat Umer
>>>>>>> >    3. Hazrat Usman
>>>>>>> >    4. Hazrat Ali ibn Abu Talib
>>>>>>> >    5. Hazrat Talha
>>>>>>> >    6. Hazrat Zubair bin al-Awwam
>>>>>>> >    7. Hazrat Saad bin Abi Waqas
>>>>>>> >    8. Hazrat Saeed bin Zaid
>>>>>>> >    9. Hazrat Abdul Rahman ibn Awf
>>>>>>> >    10. Hazrat Abu `Ubaida bin al-Jarrah
>>>>>>>
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